{"id":8411,"date":"2022-10-25T10:00:49","date_gmt":"2022-10-25T08:00:49","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.anovapeneira.gal\/?p=8411"},"modified":"2022-10-16T18:07:15","modified_gmt":"2022-10-16T16:07:15","slug":"francisco-martinez-lopez","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.anovapeneira.gal\/index.php\/2022\/10\/25\/francisco-martinez-lopez\/","title":{"rendered":"Francisco Mart\u00ednez L\u00f3pez"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

O \u00faltimo guerrilleiro<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n

O Quico \u00e9 unha desas persoas coas que \u00e1s veces a vida te premia d\u00e1ndoche a posibilidade de co\u00f1ecer, un aut\u00e9ntico heroe. El \u00e9 un home do Bierzo, de case 100 anos de idade, naceu en 1925, e foi guerrilleiro na Espa\u00f1a de Franco, combatente contra a barbarie monstruosa do nacional catolicismo espa\u00f1ol. Quico am\u00f3sase moi orgulloso de ter compartido cami\u00f1o con aqueles guerrilleiros e guerrilleiras que en realidade eran mozos e mozas de nobre ideais que deron o mellor de si mesmos, incluso as s\u00faas vidas e a s\u00faa liberdade,para loitar contra a barbarie e contra os b\u00e1rbaros. El veu presentar o seu \u00faltimo libro a Redondela e n\u00f3s non perdemos a oportunidade de conversar con Quico, o \u00faltimo guerrilleiro.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cNin a lei de amnist\u00eda nin as de memoria hist\u00f3rica resolveron o problema de base: a falta de alicerces da democracia espa\u00f1ola\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Ves a Redondela a presentar o libro que escribiches coa t\u00faa filla verdade?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Si, \u00e9 unha parte do meu espazo vital : a loita pola democracia. A mi\u00f1a filla naceu en Francia pero pronto comezou a estudar e traballar sobre o movemento guerrilleiro, de feito a s\u00faa tese doutoral versa sobre este tema.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

O que imos ver no libro \u00e9 a t\u00faa vida?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Si, \u00e9 a mi\u00f1a vida .\u00c9 a mi\u00f1a memoria vital sobre a loita pola liberdade e a democracia.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

E que nos podemos encontrar cando o leamos?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u00c9 un relato que describe como eu vou adquirindo conciencia pol\u00edtica e como me incorporo \u00e1 guerrilla. Pero sobre todo o que eu trato de transmitir para que o co\u00f1ezan as novas xeraci\u00f3n \u00e9 o profundo civismo e conciencia democr\u00e1tica que ti\u00f1a aquela oposici\u00f3n ao franquismo.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

A guerrilla foi unha reacci\u00f3n humana l\u00f3xica fronte \u00e1 barbarie que era a ditadura franquista. A guerrilla pod\u00eda ser militar pero non ti\u00f1a car\u00e1cter militar sen\u00f3n que ti\u00f1a unha natureza social e pol\u00edtica. Al\u00ed era todo solidariedade e fraternidade. A nosa organizaci\u00f3n social era un modelo de sociedade moito m\u00e1is xusto e nobre que a propia sociedade espa\u00f1ola.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

Que tal anda de memoria hist\u00f3rica este goberno \u201c m\u00e1is progresista da historia\u201d?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Eu o que penso \u00e9 que estamos a\u00ednda a pagar as consecuencias dunha transici\u00f3n na que non houbo a necesaria ruptura sen\u00f3n continuidade, co que os que ti\u00f1an o poder seguiron e seguen a manter a hexemon\u00eda.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

Cando te metiches na guerrilla?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Cando ti\u00f1a 9 anos. Eu nac\u00edn no 1925 e xa viv\u00edn a revoluci\u00f3n de Asturias pois os meus pais estiveran implicados naquel proceso e eu, sendo neno, observaba e quedoume gravado no m\u00e1is profundo da alma. Cando chega a Fronte Popular hai unha ilusi\u00f3n enorme e un entusiasmo xeneralizado porque parec\u00eda que Espa\u00f1a superaba o per\u00edodo reaccionario e iniciaba un cami\u00f1o de luz, esperanza , liberdade e xustiza social. Pero, por desgraza, chega o golpe de estado e o que trae consigo \u00e9 a represi\u00f3n , a morte e a barbarie<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

A guerrilla foi unha forza de resistencia armada \u00e1 barbarie do franquismo. Eu impliqueime nela xunto con varios familiares, amigos e veci\u00f1os.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

Cando se produce o golpe de estado por que a Rep\u00fablica non armou ao pobo?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Eu daquela era un neno e non ti\u00f1a capacidade para analizalo, o que penso agora \u00e9 que a Republica tampouco \u00e9 que fose a panacea revolucionaria. Era a burgues\u00eda espa\u00f1ola quen a sustentaba e se cadra case ti\u00f1an m\u00e1is medo ao movemento obreiro que ao fascismo.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

Como era aquela guerrilla?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Hab\u00eda grupos en Galicia, Asturias e El Bierzo. Intentouse un acordo estrutural para acumular forzas pero non foi posible, as diferencias pol\u00edticas e estruturais fixeron imposible o acordo.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

A ti cheg\u00e1ronte a capturar?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Non, nunca.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

Pero estiveches no exilio?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Si, o grupo no que eu sa\u00edn foi o \u00faltimo que abandonou a loita na provincia de Le\u00f3n. Quedou un grupo en Ourense que o deixou, e marchou ao exilio, un ano m\u00e1is tarde. Co exilio espa\u00f1ol non todos os pobos foron iguais, quixera destacar a solidariedade profunda que en li\u00f1as xerais si amosou o pobo franc\u00e9s.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

Para o r\u00e9xime erades \u201c bandoleiros\u201d?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Si, seino pero iso era cara ao exterior. O que intentaba transmitir o r\u00e9xime era que aqu\u00ed non exist\u00eda disidencia pol\u00edtica camuflando os episodios de loita pol\u00edtica como meros actos de bandoleirismo.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

Que opinas da lei de amnist\u00eda?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

O seu obxecto era deixar impune o r\u00e9xime franquista. Cando desde unha perspectiva \u00e9tica o desexable ser\u00eda xudicializar non s\u00f3 \u00e1s persoas que participaron del reprimindo aos verdadeiros dem\u00f3cratas, sen\u00f3n tam\u00e9n ao propio r\u00e9xime como responsable da negaci\u00f3n da democracia en Espa\u00f1a. Nin a lei de amnist\u00eda nin as leis de memoria hist\u00f3rica resolven o problema fundamental que \u00e9 a falta de alicerces da democracia espa\u00f1ola.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

Carrillo foi un traidor?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Tivo as s\u00faas luces e as s\u00faas sombras. O que \u00e9 innegable \u00e9 que foi un loitador sen reservas contra o franquismo.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

Falemos de actualidade. Como analizas a guerra en Ucra\u00edna?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Putin non \u00e9 un santo e tam\u00e9n ten responsabilidade, desde logo que si, pero a guerra \u00e9 un proxecto da OTAN.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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